- Why is it important to define terms at the beginning of a debate case?
- What do the terms "value premise" and "criterion" mean? In the basketball example, what were the value premise and the criterion?
- Concerning case writing what do the authors suggest is drafted first: the arguments or the premise and criterion?
- All arguments must have a claim, warrant, and impact. In your own words, what do these terms mean?
- Of the claim, warrant, and impact, which should link back to the criterion?
- For Varsity members- on p. 13, the authors discuss the neg defining terms. Why aren't neg definitions accepted in a round if the neg doesn't give a rationale?
Wednesday, May 30, 2007
Case Writing: pp. 10 - 13
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-Terms must be defined in order for the two that are debating to know what they are debating. It would be silly to debate if the two debators were debating two different things.
-The value premise is the goal or idea that the debator is trying to reach. The whole speech is centered around proving the value premise
-The criterion is the means in which the value premise is met
-the value premise was getting the team to the NCAA final four or the national Championship
-the criterion was getting the most points
-The author suggests that one should write the value premise and criterion first because the agruments should all work to prove and support the value.
-the claim is what you are trying to prove
-the warrent is the why you are right
-the impact is the why it matters
-The impact should link to the criterion.
-The burden of defining is given to the affermative. If the aff gives stupid or abusive definitions, then the neg may offer counter defs. This would be a topicality argument. There must be a good reason for T to be used in LD!!!! The Neg must say why the given def is soo wrong because it is the aff's job to define.
-not giving rational would be like Mr. Gregorie coming into the debate room in the middle of practice and firing Mrs Daily and saying "okay folks this is your new debate coach" as Micalel Jackson walks into the room without saying why.
-If Jacko is going to be our coach, Gregorie must say WHY Mrs. Daily is a bad coach, and WHY Jacho is a better coach than Mrs Daily.
-May God help us ALL !!!!
-Happy summer
-The previous example was ONLY for illustrative purposes. if i recieve an "F" on this assignent, I guess Mrs. Daily took it seriously. I'm sorry. You know that i think that you are an awsome coach
-DDog-
*It is important to define terms in the beginning so both sides know what they are debating and what the other side is talking about
*Value Premise is the main goal
Criterion is how you achieve the value premise
in the example the value premise was to be in the final four and the criterion was to score more points
*The author said to put the value premise and criterion first then the arguments to support the goal and how it is to be achieved.
*Claim is the point you are trying to make
Warrant is why you are right
Impact is why it matters and it should also link back to the criterion
1.) defining terms is important because there has to be some common ground between the two debators; they and the judge have to know what exactly they're debating
2.) the value premise is the goal the debator is debating for; the debate is to achieve the premise.
the criterion is how to achieve the value premise; it's the means to the achieve the end
in the basketball example, the value was to get to the final four and the criterion was to get the most points
3.) the value and criterion should be written first and the case so that it supports the values
4.) claim: what you're trying to prove
impact: why it's important
warrent: why you're right
5.) link the impact to the criterion. this is mucho mucho important
6.) providing definitions is an aff burden; neg can only give their own definitions if the aff is way off and abusive and give a rational reason why it is, then it turns into a topicality argument
1.) The importance of defining terms that require interpratation is to avoid the listener viewing your term in a different sense than intended by you. You tell them specifically what you are talking about so there is no room for mistakes and/or discrepancies.
2.) The value premise is the goal (in the form of a value that you are attempting to protect or uphold with your argument)which you are trying to fulfill. Your value premise is the structure that your argument is based around.
The criterion describes and elaborates on the way that the resolution further betters the value premise that you are arguing for. The value premise in the basketball example was to out-score your opponents (to win the game). The criterion was how each type of player would help to acheive a victory (the value premise).
3.) They suggest to do whichever you find to be most effective in your specific circumstances as a debater. Although, they inform the reader that the majority of debaters that they have worked with have found greater results with constructing arguments initially.
4.) A claim is a statement that establishes and presents your argument. A warrant explains and supports your claim. The impact is the way in which the claim affects the debate and how it connects to the criterion and value premise.
5.)The impact of your argument should connect back with the criterion.
1. It is important to define terms to make sure that you and the other debator are debating the same thing. Also, to clarify the resolution.
2. The value premise is the goal. The criterion is the method of achieving that goal. The goal for the basketball example is to get into the NCAA. The criterion is to score more points.
3. The author says to write the premise and criterion then the arguments so that they are relevant to both.
4. The claim is the main idea and view of your argument.
The warrant tells why your claim is correct.
The impact tells why your argument is significant to the debate.
5. The impact should link back to the criterion.
-it is important to define terms at the beginning of the debate case becuase you need to clarify the round and meanings of terms so as not to be debating on different meanings or viewpoints of a defention.
-value premise- the goal of which to base the case
-criterion- the standard that proves and links to show how the value premise is met.
-basketball
-value- get to the finals
-criterion- gain the most points
-Authors suggest that you construct the arguments first and find the reslationship/tie between them to create the proper value and criterion for the case.
-claim- the statement of the argument that is being made
-warrant- the answer to the question WHY that will make your statment true
-impact- the connection to the criterion and value to prove why the statments matter in the debate.
-claim, warratn, and impact all create an argument. Every part of the argument should link back to the criterion. The actual part of the argument that does the linking is the impact.
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