Sunday, July 29, 2007

Assumptions, Arguments, and Refutations: pp. 30-33

Click on "comments" below to post your thoughts to the following:
  1. What is an assumption? Why do they exist in debate? How do good debaters deal with them?
  2. Why are assumptions hard to deal with?
  3. What questions should you ask yourself to find an assumption within an argument?
  4. Why (at some level) will you eventually have to stop questioning assumptions?

8 comments:

khor said...

1.) an assumption is something presumed to be true and has to be true in order for the argument to work. a good debater deals with an assumption by identifying it as an assumption and invalidating it thru analysis and evidence
2.) assumptions are hard to deal with b/c they are often made unconsciously and at the base of a case or argument
3.) ask yourself:
- what has to be true in order for the argument to be true?
- if the assumption is false, does that make the whole argument false?
4.) even assumptions about assumptions have assumptions, so at a certain level it's easier just to accept that there will always be an assumption about something

basketballer13a said...

1)*Assumption is something believed to be true without proof.
*They exist in debate because they are required to win a argument.
*Good debaters deal with assumptions by evaluating them and evidence that supports their assumption.

2)Assumptions are hard to deal with because they are often made unconciously. They are not directly stated.

3)To find assumptions you should ask youself what is needed to be true for the following argument to also be true.

4)You will have to eventruly stop questioning assumptions because you could go on forever qustioning assumptions.

dkrajci said...

1. Assumption is something that is thought to be true, independent to the argument, and is required for the argument to be true. it is taken for granted. they exist in debate because we take a lot for granted in arguments. good debaters assess the assumptions on which an argument depends on. the more you investigate the assumption, the better you will be at defending an argument and challenging other arguments
2.Assumptions occur in the background of an argument, and are not completely said. they are not backed by facts and are required to make everything come together
3.You should ask yourself,-what has to be true for the argument to be true? -can this be proven false from a different point of view?
4. you can question assumptions after assumptions. questioning them can be infinite. when you answer an assumption, you usually use assumptions

Unknown said...

1) Assumptions are everywhere and are the basis of all good arguments. An assumption is anything that is assumed to be true.
2) we have them in debate because in order for the argument to be true the assumption must be true s well
3) good debaters are careful to spot the faulty assumptions in their opponents case. If they can disprove an assmption, it is often the first step in disproving the argument.
4)Assumptions are often difficult because they are often hiding in the argument. They Are not always obvious and standout. They are suttle and they are everywhere oh my.
5)You must ask yourself what needs to be true for the asrgument to be true
6) Everything has assumptions. They are everywhere. Even assumptions have assumptions. It would be ridiculous to analyze all assumptions of everything. It would go on forever and get nowheere

Unknown said...

1) Assumptions are everywhere and are the basis of all good arguments. An assumption is anything that is assumed to be true.
2) we have them in debate because in order for the argument to be true the assumption must be true s well
3) good debaters are careful to spot the faulty assumptions in their opponents case. If they can disprove an assmption, it is often the first step in disproving the argument.
4)Assumptions are often difficult because they are often hiding in the argument. They Are not always obvious and standout. They are suttle and they are everywhere oh my.
5)You must ask yourself what needs to be true for the asrgument to be true
6) Everything has assumptions. They are everywhere. Even assumptions have assumptions. It would be ridiculous to analyze all assumptions of everything. It would go on forever and get nowheere

Unknown said...

sorry abouth the 2 posts my computer is smarter than me lol

BenStickel said...

An assumption is an idea that is presumed to be true. They exist in all things as well as debate becuase we do not assess every nook and cranny of every one of our stand points and ideals. Everyone thinks things without thinking necessarily all the way through. You protect your own with analysis and evidence while attacking theirs (and if you're lucky, say how that assumption deteriorates the stability of their argument).
-Because they're not always intentional. They will surprise you when you believed to have that specific train of thought completed. When one support beam falls over this may cause the whole structure to collapse.
-"What has to be tru for the argument to be true."
-Because it is an endless cycle. Assumption find themselvs everywhere. There are assumptions in everything and to pick apart every assumption in every argument would drag on infinitely.

hingesphs830 said...

-assumption- something presumed to be true that is required to be true to work throughout the argument.
-assumption exist in debate because we need to idetify and analyze the evidence to find reasons for fault.
-good debators deal with assumptions by critically assessing the assumptions on which as arguments, and analyze them through evidence given to suport it.

-assumptions are hard to deal with because they are usually unconscious and occur in the base of the argument.

-to find as suumption within an argument as yourself "what has to be true, for the argument to be true?"

-every assumption has an assumption, eventually there will be a level that you need to stop, because its a un-ending process of assumptions that will never end, but you cn reach a point where the assumption can be agreed upon and you need to end your argument at that.